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amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.02 21:51:00 - [1] First read this. Whats going to happen to your internets If you want to stop it In simple terms no more unlimited internet packages and more small as **** bandwith caps. How does this relate to you? You use the god damn puter everyday to play eve and watch youtube crap. It if this continues to be allowed to happen you'll be doing much less of that.
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 00:20:00 - [2] Edited by: amarian arch on 03/11/2010 00:24:54 http://teksavvy.com/en/default.asp is the unlimited provider i use Edit- They also dont out source and they speak english.
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 03:09:00 - [3] Keep it up brothers inform all you know about this!
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 04:13:00 - [4] Originally by: Keta Fraal I signed the petition and mailed the letter. Bell is a very large corporation with a charter to provide an infrastructure over their monopolized region. It is easy to say that they have ZERO cost in providing us access to an already constructed infrastructure, but they need to price their product to allow for future maintenance and growth in the infrastructure. If as most people are saying, customers are veering toward streaming content broadcast over the net Bell by charter has to guarantee service as it's demanded without interruption. One way or another prices will rise. Let's hope wages will rise too. dont forget the billions of dollars of government subsidies they recieved that must of been hard for them too
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 07:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Aloe Cloveris Who cares if we subsidized Bell's infrastructure? Or that rather than using their astronomical profits to upgrade said gov't subsidized infrastructure (perhaps keeping up with quality of of service in, say, Lithuania ... I dunno about you, but we're paying approx $80 USD a month for 10MB up with a 60Gb limit) they set anemic caps (didn't want that Netflix anyway ;_; ), draconian throttling policies and blame it on that supposed 2% who clog the backbone tubes with them there newfangled torrent thingerwhatsits. If you don't like what Bell's doing, you can always just take your business to the competi-- oh wait Your independent ISPs no longer have unlimited access to the tubes you paid for. Bell literally owns your tubes now and can charge what they like. No competition allowed (well, maybe someone theoretically COULD come along and pay out of pocket to wire Canada coast-to-coast with cable/fiberoptic, but they're certainly not gonna get it heavily subsidized by taxpayers like Bell did). gg CRTC if you were making a reference to my comment i was implying what you just wrote. About bell getting public handouts but not the little guys
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 08:08:00 - [6] Edited by: amarian arch on 03/11/2010 08:10:09 Originally by: Aloe Cloveris Originally by: amarian arch if you were making a reference to my comment i was implying what you just wrote. About bell getting public handouts but not the little guys Oh. Crap. I actually read your post about 30 seconds after I went on my rant without fully reading the thread. So yeah, I guess I unwittingly rehashed everything you'd just said. At least we're in agreement that this is a brazenly ** move by the CRTC. How the hell do you or I even go about appealing a bull decision of this scale and significance? I'm genuinely curious if there's any way that this decision can be reversed or if we've just been **ed forever. petition and rant to the crtc and your local mp and everyone else. Its what im doing lol. Edit: I admire your initiative
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 11:03:00 - [7] Edited by: amarian arch on 03/11/2010 11:06:43 Originally by: Jonny Miami Quote: Do you do/want to do any of the following activities? - Download new games through STEAM? - Download movies or TV shows from iTunes? - Watch streaming movies or TV shows on your TV through Netflix? - Download the latest software updates? Guess what? You'll be paying more when Bell institutes UBB on your high speed connection. It could end up costing you $30 in addition to your existing bill! Sign me UP! I would gladly pay and extra 30 bucks for that. I currently pay around $130/mo for dsl and phone with a 30gb cap through NorthwesTel. Everything after 30gb is $10/gig. No cap on the surcharge. So 40 gigs is $230 and 50 gigs is $330 and so on. Thousand plus dollar phone bills are not unheard of for those people who have unsecure wireless networks or hotels with wireless for guests. Yes I would like to use another provider but NorthwesTel has a government approved monopoly and there are no other providers. One nwt rep has been quoted as saying 'we don't have a monopoly, you can choose to go without'. But that is a rant of mine for another day... you do realize they are forcing people to use whats being done to you right? They are forcing resellers that provide unlimited bandwith plans like teksavvy and viacom to charge like northwestel. Most importantly this effects the bell lines not northwestintel infastructure. In simple terms they are turning the few good companies that provide internet to users in the rest of canada into the one your dealing with right now. You mention northwest intel monopoly well the rest of canada is going to have the exact same system soon if this gets passed. In the future read the article.
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 11:15:00 - [8] Edited by: amarian arch on 03/11/2010 11:18:00
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.11.03 22:36:00 - [9] Edited by: amarian arch on 03/11/2010 22:39:03 Wasnt capitalism supposed to allow a free market environment where all companies could fairly compete? Bell = If parliament doesn't subsidize us Canadians will come across as non internet savvy cavemen Resellers = We can make money to pay for our own private infrastructure by renting bells infrastructure which will lead to better competition and cheaper internet prices Bell = We don't like this we should be the only ones with infrastructure even though we were bilching people for years by renting our infrastructure which was paid for mostly by the government. Resellers = There is no longer anyway for us to stay competitive without raising our prices which bell will either match or go lower on. Resellers = If bell had subsidized infrastructure why cant we? Government = Because you didn't give us a handouts. (EDIT Freebies and bribes is a better term)

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